# Deriving High and Low Non-Zero Values

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There may be times when you need to derive the smallest (or largest) value from a range, unless the smallest (or largest) value is zero. For instance, you might have a range of values such as {0, 3, 1, 4, 2}. In this case, the lowest value is zero, but the value you really want returned is 1.

There is no intrinsic function within Excel to return a value as stipulated here. However, you can create a formula that will do the trick. Assuming that the range of values you want to analyze are in C4:C8, the following formula will return the lowest non-zero value:

```=IF(MIN(C4:C8)=0,SMALL(C4:C8,COUNTIF(C4:C8,"=0")+1),MIN(C4:C8))
```

This formula uses the MIN function to determine if the lowest value in the range is zero. If it is, then the SMALL function is used to derive the lowest value, excluding the zeros. (The COUNTIF function returns the number of zeros in the range, and therefore tells SMALL which item from the range to pick.)

A small change to the formula allows it to be used to return the largest non-zero number in a range:

```=IF(MAX(C4:C8)=0,LARGE(C4:C8,COUNTIF(C4:C8,"=0")+1),MAX(C4:C8))
```

These formulas will work for any range, unless the range is made up entirely of zeros. In that instance, a #NUM! error is returned.

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Willy Vanhaelen    30 Jun 2015, 11:33
@Micky,

The MAX function works fine as long as there is at least one positive value in the range but if none of the values are positive it will return zero which is not the goal.
Michael (Micky) Avidan    29 Jun 2015, 11:42
@Willy,
I'm more than happy to get feedbacks (and I'm not ashamed for, SOMETIMES, be proven being wrong).
However:
1) I do hope you'll check, again, your remark regarding my suggestion for using the MAX function.
2) As for the MIN suggestion - I used Allen's examples and didn't noticed they are all positive.
Michael (Micky) Avidan
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Willy Vanhaelen    28 Jun 2015, 12:37
@Micky

The formulas you propose don't work if the range contains also negative numbers.

These ones do:
{=MIN(IF(C4:C8<>0,C4:C8))}
{=MAX(IF(C4:C8<>0,C4:C8))}
Michael (Micky) Avidan    27 Jun 2015, 05:44
For the MIN I would suggest an Array formula, such as:
=MIN(IF(C4:C8>0,C4:C8))
For the MAX value, just use the simplest formula:
=MAX(C4:C8)
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Michael (Micky) Avidan
“Microsoft® Answers" - Wiki author & Forums Moderator
“Microsoft®” MVP – Excel (2009-2015)
ISRAEL

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